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Alpin mac Echdach

Mann - Ca 841


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  • Navn , Alpin mac Echdach 
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    Død Ca 834-841 
    Person ID I14549  Geelmuyden_etc
    Sist endret 28 Okt 2013 

    Far Eochaid IV MacFergus 
    Famile ID F13892  Gruppeskjema  |  Familiediagram

    Familie Unuisticc,   d. 834 
    Barn 
     1. Kenneth I MacAlpin,   f. 810, Iona, Skotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Feb 858 eller 859, Cinnbelachoir, Skotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Alder 49 år)
    Sist endret 28 Okt 2013 
    Famile ID F13726  Gruppeskjema  |  Familiediagram

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    • Alpín mac Echdach
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      Alpín mac Eochaid may refer to two persons. The first person is a presumed king of Dál Riata in the late 730s. The second is the father of Kenneth MacAlpin (Cináed mac Ailpín). The name Alpín is taken to be a Pictish one, derived from the Anglo-Saxon name Ælfwine; Alpín's patronymic means son of Eochaid or son of Eochu.
      Alpín father of King Kenneth[edit]

      Irish annals such as the Annals of Ulster and the Annals of Innisfallen name Kenneth's father as one Alpín. This much is reasonably certain.

      The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba usually begins with Kenneth, but some variants include a reference to Kenneth's father: "[Alpín] was killed in Galloway, after he had entirely destroyed and devastated it. And then the kingdom of the Scots was transferred to the kingdom [variant: land] of the Picts."

      John of Fordun (IV, ii) calls Kenneth's father "Alpin son of Achay" (Alpín son of Eochu) and has him killed in war with the Picts in 836; Andrew of Wyntoun's version mixes Fordun's war with the Picts with the Chronicle version which has him killed in Galloway.
      Alpín of Dál Riata[edit]

      The genealogies produced for Kings of Scots in the High Middle Ages traced their ancestry through Kenneth MacAlpin, through the Cenél nGabráin of Dál Riata to Fergus Mór, and then to legendary Irish kings such as Conaire Mór and the shadowy Deda mac Sin.

      These genealogies, perhaps oral in origin, were subjected to some regularisation by the scribes who copied them into sources such as the Chronicle of Melrose, the Poppleton Manuscript and the like. Either by accident, or by design, a number of kings were misplaced, being moved from the early 8th century to the late 8th and early 9th century.

      The original list is presumed to have resembled the following:
      1. Eochaid mac Domangairt
      2. Ainbcellach mac Ferchair
      3. Eógan mac Ferchair
      4. Selbach mac Ferchair
      5. Eochaid mac Echdach
      6. Dúngal mac Selbaig
      7. Alpín
      8. Muiredach mac Ainbcellaig
      9. Eógan mac Muiredaig
      10. Áed Find
      11. Fergus mac Echdach

      After modification to link this list of kings of Dál Riata to the family of Kenneth MacAlpin, the list is presumed to have been in this form:
      1. Eochaid mac Domangairt
      2. Ainbcellach mac Ferchair
      3. Eógan mac Ferchair
      8. Muiredach mac Ainbcellaig
      9. Eogan mac Muiredaig
      10. Áed Find
      11. Fergus mac Echdach
      4. Selbach mac Ferchair (called Selbach mac Eógain)
      5. Eochaid mac Echdach (called Eochaid mac Áeda Find)
      6. Dúngal mac Selbaig (name unchanged)
      7. Alpín (called Alpín mac Echdach)

      However, the existence of the original Alpín is less than certain. No king in Dál Riata of that name is recorded in the Irish annals in the early 730s. A Pictish king named Alpín, whose father's name is not given in any Irish sources, or even from the Pictish Chronicle king-lists, is known from the late 720s, when he was defeated by Óengus mac Fergusa and Nechtan mac Der-Ilei. For the year 742, the Annals of Ulster are read as referring to the capture of "Elffin son of Crop" (the former reading had besieged rather than captured). Whether Álpin son of Crup is related to the Álpin of the 720s is unknown.
      References[edit]
      Anderson, Alan Orr, Early Sources of Scottish History A.D 500–1286, volume 1. Reprinted with corrections. Paul Watkins, Stamford, 1990. ISBN 1-871615-03-8
      Broun, Dauvit, The Irish Identity of the Kingdom of the Scots in the Twelfth and Thirteenth Centuries. Boydell, Woodbridge, 1999. ISBN 0-85115-375-5
      Broun, Dauvit, "Pictish Kings 761–839: Integration with Dál Riata or Separate Development" in Sally M. Foster (ed.), The St Andrews Sarcophagus: A Pictish masterpiece and its international connections. Four Courts, Dublin, 1998. ISBN 1-85182-414-6



      Reigned 839-841 [2]
      King of Scots

      Notes 1 - Often said to have married a Pictish Princess, however MacDonald source claims it was his father who married the Princess.

      2 - The Dalriad Monarchy remained in the line of Fergus, until about 700 AD when owing to the military ability of Fearcher Fada or Fearcher the Tall, whose Capital had been at Dunolly near Oban, it passed over into the line of Loarn, thus laying a foundation for the future eminence in Scottish history of the lords of that district. Subsequently, it passed between the lines of Fergus and of Loarn several times, until 834 AD, it was held by Aidan (Hugh) of the line of Fergus, whose son Kenneth MacAlpine, ancestor of Somerled, the lord of the Isles, became King of the whole Pictish race, within the present Scotland.
      Kenneth McAlpine succeded about 840-50 AD to the Pictish throne , in virtue of succession through his mother - succession in the Pictish system being in the female line, that is, a man succeeded to the throne, because his mother was the previous King's sister or daughter. Kenneth thus became lord of the territory between Caithness and Edinburgh. [this makes it more likely to have been Kenneth's father who married the Pictish princess]
      [ http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/republic/PatAdams/research/argyllshire/ch1.html ]

      3 - Alpin 68th Fabulous, 28th authentic, King of Scotland, slain in Galloway, a.d. 841 by Brudus, King of the Picts, from whom he had wrested the scepter.
      [http://www.mackinnon.org/mackinnon-chiefs.html#XXIV]

      4 - Siol Alpein, a group of ancient clans each tracing its decent back to King Alpin. The clans in this confederation are the MacGregors, the MacNabs, MacAulays, the MacPhies, Grants, MacKinnons and MacQuarries.
      In 1671, a bond of manrent or friendship was entered into between Lachlan Mor and James MacGregor of that ilk, which mentions that they "are descended lawfully fra two breethren of auld descent." Presumably this refers to Doungallus and Findanus, grandson and great-grandson of King Alpin.
      [http://www.mackinnon.org/mackinnon-short-history.html]

      Sources [S327] Lakey - Genealogy, Gilbert Marlow Lakey, (http://members.cox.net/benchrest/Genealogy.html)

      [S386] Macdonald genealogy, Roddy Macdonald of the Clan Donald Society of Edinburgh, (http://